02/19/13

Associative Music Searching – The Path Of Melkor

The Ainur sing to Eru Ilúvatar

The Ainur sing to Eru Ilúvatar

Associative Music Searching (AMS)

Urban dictionary defines Audiophile as “ A person who thoroughly enjoys listening to a wide selection of music, and of varied musical genres.” I have always felt this is the only way to listen to music. Why settle for a few genres when music like art should be tasted in variety?

Can we leave this up to our radio stations to show us the latest and greatest tunes? I am afraid not, outside of college radio, radio stations work off of a top xxx list. If it’s not on a billboard hit list, chances are you won’t ever hear of it.

Today I am going to be sharing what I have found to be the best method for discovering new music, using what I dub Associative Music Searching

Definitions:

Associative wha??

Associative Music Search is hijacked from the principle of Associative learning

Or as Wikipedia states:

Associative learning is the process by which an association between two stimuli or a behavior and a stimulus is learned. The two forms of associative learning are classical and operant conditioning. In the former a previously neutral stimulus is repeatedly presented together with a reflex eliciting stimuli until eventually the neutral stimulus will elicit a response on its own.

Clear as the Ala Wai water right? – Lets try this again – Associative learning = You like deep fried shrimp? You’ll probably like deep fried mahi-mahi.

On that basis AMSAssociative Music Searching : Is the result of searching for an Artist or band that you are familiar with and finding similar sounding or like-minded genres.

Example = I think Skinny Puppy is a cool Band = I’ll search for similar bands that either sound or are associated with Skinny Puppy in some way.

Requirements:

Formula for Associative Music Searching =

[ A Compared to B = Result ] [Validate Data]

A: Artist / Band we think is cool.

B : will be our Data Set or Database- We will be using The Last Fm.

Results = New Discovery!

Validate Data: Optional, verify your results.

With terms and conditions out of the way lets begin with the actual walkthrough

The Walkthrough

A: Artist or Band we think sounds superb.

I have selected the works of the magi duo Cyclobe for our example.

Again, We like the sound of the Cyclobe (who doesn’t?) and we want to find similar artists that sound like them.
Or similar genres relating to Cyclobe.

B:Our Data Set or Database: We will be using the last.fm as our database.

Open your web browser (or click on the link provided) of choice and go to: www.last.fm .
Once you arrive at the site locate the music search entry.

Last Fm Music search

Last Fm Music search

Type in your band’s name: Cyclobe for our example and hit enter or click the magnifying glass.

Click on View Cyclobe or view (bandname)

View Cyclobe

Band Results

In blue we can view what genre in the instance is associated with our band. We could at this point explore similar bands by clicking on any of the genre types.
However what we are data mining for particularly are bands that sound like Cyclobe specifically.

Near the bottom of the page you will see

Similar Artists

Let’s click on the Similar artists link for a better view.

similar artists expanded

We can now see a short summary of the like-sounding bands, the level of similarity, and listeners. We can use the results to assist us in our search.

For our example, I will select the Artist Kreng.

Kreng

13,294 listeners

Kreng started out as a strictly sample-based project, incorporating sounds from various sources: free-jazz, new electronic generated sounds, classical modernism & vintage geographical recordings.

The description alone warrants exploration.

Let’s click on the Kreng link and find out more about the artist.

kreng

We see a similar results to our Cyclobe search. Our genre tags, similar artists,Photos of the artist and music samples. Listening to a few sample tracks of Kreng. I am very pleased with the sound of the artist and yes the sound is very akin to Cyclobe. But how do we know if Kreng is indictive to Cyclobe in terms of all music or philosphy?

Validation

We will now validate our search results against

• Bands Website
• Amazon
• Youtube
• Periodicals/interviews

Google search of artist :

kreng google

As you can see from the search results there is a Myspace page for the artist, artist interviews, Miasmah recordings (the label of the band) page and more.

This a good start for your result research on the band. Feel free to add Google search parameters to focus your Google searching. Here is a great article on Google Search strings

Youtube.com is also a great validator:

A Youtube search will give you videos the band has done. This will provide a visual representation of the band.
Youtube is also a quick way to hear most of the bands’ catalogues of sound.

Other Sources of Validation? If you are lucky enough to have a local music store. My favorites locally are
Jelly’s Hawaii
Hungry Ear Records
I can assure you the employees are walking Smithsonians of music lore.

Otherwise

Amazon.com will give you online reviews based on user data. Although this can be a bit hit-or-miss as you may stumble across troll postings, statistically the reviews should give you a good idea.

Periodicals? Under The Radar. In my opinion the best printed reference for not only music discovery but reviews and interviews.

You are now ready to begin your AMS. I must forewarn you about music discovery and the illuminating effects it may cause. I will do so in the text of the Simalarion.

At first Eru Ilúvatar, the One, the All-Father, lived alone in the Timeless Halls amid the Void. Out of his thought he bore the Ainur, the Holy Ones, whom he kindled with the Flame Imperishable. Teaching them to sing, he gave them a theme on which all of them here to sing together.

One of the Ainur, Melkor, whom Ilúvatar had given the greatest gifts of power and knowledge, had gone often into the Void in quest of the Flame Imperishable. This he wanted to use to make things of his own. He did not find it there; it lives only with Ilúvatar. Melkor, though, grew different from the other Ainur as he wandered in the Void.

When the Ainur sang together, then, Melkor did not sing Ilúvatar’s theme, but put his own themes into the great music. Discord arose. Most of the Ainur stayed with Il´uvatar’s theme. Some of them, though, grew downcast at the discord and lost track of the music; others even followed Melkor’s lead. Twice, to bring the music back into line with its goal, Ilúvatar put new themes into the music. Twice Melkor kept the discord going till Ilúvatar ended the music with a mighty crash.

01/13/13

Hawaii Punk’s Not Dead

band logo
I began doing my research for this article by reading and listening to interviews by former Red Hot Chilli Peppers’ guitarist, the late John Frusciante, who had a quote that really put the interview into context.

The force that created us is expressing itself through our existence. I don’t think a musical idea starts in your brain. I believe it starts at a place before that we don’t have any direct contact with. And I believe that everything that we do or everything that we create is nature expressing itself.

Cataylst channels the nature of not only their environment. But of generations of musicians before them.

It is my privilege to present an interview that took place at the Waianae Piilau Skate park on “Rusty’s Ramp”.

Mahalo

Could you begin by introducing the band, who the members are the instruments they play and the sound of your music?

Tom Talkington shredding on guitar, Jeromey hoots on slapping bass and Aaron Overbay kicking drums. Our sound is little bit of all the music we listen to and smash it into a catalyst.

What’s the origin of the band Catalyst and how did the name come into being?

Tom and Jeromey started jamming in 1989 in Makaha with various friends. When Aaron was only two years old haha. Several starts and stops and long hiatus from Hawaii to Portland and back again…finally to reemerge in a fabrication warehouse in Sand Island in the summer of 2010. Our original drummer Chris “Critter” Wilcox came up with the name Catalyst because we all surf and they work with catalysts all day long. We appreciate the other definitions of ‘catalyst’ which really describe our approach to music in general. Now with our new drummer faster guitar and sicker lyrics we are the Catalyst you hear today.

Back yard fundamentals

What influences played a part in the band’s style? Have your influences changed over time and in doing so morphed the sound of Catalyst?

Aaron’s influence is more metal based. He is a total metal head with a lot of punk influences.
He’s a huge Dead Kennedy’s fan, and is also into Slipknot , Mudvayne and Stevie Ray Vaughun.

Tom Talkington’s influences stem mainly from his love of the guitar. Artists include Eric Clapton , John Bonham, Joey Jordison , John Fruciante , Man Or Astroman ,D. Boon (of the Minutemen), Tom Waits ,Frank Zappa and the Clash.

Jeromey’s love for music mostly stems from his father’s favorite musicians, Dave Bruebeck, Fleetwood Mac. He also has a love for Hawaiian music, Olomana, early Makaha Sons and Aunty G. Keawe, to name a few. A heavy early punk influence is still carried front and center. Ultimately the Minute Men , Angry Samoans and Fugazi, but ultimately a love for music of all sorts.

What are some of the challenges you faced starting out as a band and how did you overcome them?

The challenges we face are many. We have a formula for making music and we try to use that same formula to extinguish any doubt that music is dying. We don’t worry if people love or hate the music. The biggest challenge really, is being a band in Hawaii because of the clicks of music…if it’s not reggae, ska, or crappy cover songs nobody wants to hear them…sorry guys no ukuleles in this band. We just try to shut people up an listen to music by just bringing it and ignoring that fact that some people will not like it. We keep playing what we like to play and we hope our audience finds us. Keeping up with trends is not what we’re about.

High Tide invitational
How would you define punk rock?

Our definition of punk rock is our definition of our style playing what you want to play and not giving a crap what anyone thinks of it, just as long as no matter what or where we are playing, we are having the most fun at the show. Punk should not be a genre of music but really an attitude or lifestyle. The same way that alternative is a genre, because it really doesn’t describe anything it just gives it a vague description of something that can’t be classified.

Catalyst Band Photo

I’m sure you’re familiar with the 1981 Exploited song titled Punk’s Not Dead. Although the album and title may be a bit outdated, what is your opinion on the state of the Punk scene?

“Punk’s not dead…it just deserves to die when it’s become another stale cartoon. A closed-minded self-centered social club, ideas don’t matter, it’s who you know.” – Jello Biafra (Dead Kennedys)

I have been doing my best to keep up with the modern punk sounds. However I must admit I’ve been a bit disappointed at the direction of most popular bands. What is your opinion on the neu-punk culture and sound? Can every band be a Rancid and still be hardcore? Also how fares the Hawaii Punk Scene?

A lot of bands are restricted because they want to be popular and are stuck in a certain sound that they think will make them famous. I feel bad because they still try but it’s like taking a drink out of an empty bottle of Jameson. You don’t get anything from it. As much as the sound culture has changed people still want to hear something new and strange. I would like to give shout out to all the bands who want people to hear something new like: Sandpaper Handjob , Hell Caminos ,Above Reproach, Old Habits Die Hard , Knumbskulls , The SUBSTITOOTS , Black square , Unit. 101 and also Simon from Black Flys for keeping it alive.

Invisible Band

I personally have noticed over time, how the mod/punk/metal/Goth fashion trends of our yesterday has become common place in society today. What are your opinions on this?

I have definitely noticed that the underground culture has manifested it’s way into the mainstream. I grew up in Makaha and back then you would get slapped and have a hard time making it through the day if you showed up with blue hair and a nose-ring. My schoolmates and I would constantly be accused of worshiping the devil for wearing Minor Threat, Dead Milkmen t-shirts or anything that veered from the norm. It’s a lot easier now days to express individuality, but as we have learned from the past, everything comes full circle, including the expression of music: No genre will ever be forgotten in our day to day lives, we relive the past so modern times will always accept things of the unnorm because they love differences.

What advice could you give to some up and coming punk bands in Hawaii?

My advice would be to do your research. Don’t let someone tell you what is punk or cool. The net has made everything so accessible. Listen as far back as you can and find something you like and make it your own. Trust what you feel good and run with it. All good things come full circle. Don’t be afraid of things that make you uncomfortable, because if it makes you feel good it must be good. Just remember, everyone is different just like everyone else.

What is your opinion on digital downloading of music as a means of advertisement and distribution?

If anyone wants our music bad enough and they illegally download, that’s an honor that they would go to any means to get it. Record stores are things of the past, so music is either in your face or your search will always continue. Our music can be found on Facebook. But what about album art and the people that should be recognized for the album? A lot of people are forgotten and they shouldn’t be because they are just as big a part of the music being made as the band is. It’s tragic that people just don’t care about anything anymore. There is no recognition in music anymore. Do a test for me name a amazing guitarist, bass player, or drummer from the 21st century. You can’t because unless you’re behind a computer making a stupid beat, acting like you have knowledge of music theory, you’re nothing in our world of music. What can a musician do in a world of technology where anyone can be original but pressing the space bar key on a computer to change the bass drums timing? What’s the talent in that? I miss musicians in music .

I would like to dedicate this article to all the hardcore Hawaii punk bands who are still cranking out tunes for their loyal fans. I would also like to dedicate this article to a friend who passed long ago. Rusty Hoots, who will forever be in our hearts.

Rusty Hoots

01/2/13

Hawaii 70’s-80’s Punk Museum

I discovered this amazing site Hawaii’s Punk Museum.This site contains, pictures, flyers, and sound bites of the Punk Rock and New Wave Scene of the 70’s-80’s.

Aala Park Punk Gig 1986

Punk Gig at Aala Park Gig 1986.

Although the site has many contributors.
Comrade Motopu seems to be the site designer and curator.
Motopu has really collected a worthy archive of Hawaii Punk/No Wave artifacts.

Enjoy the Canon.

Hawaii’s Punk Rock Museum